And I saw that night her malignancy. MORRISON: Do you find yourself going back and playing that back in your mind? Click HERE for ticket information. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. He was in, Mr. SHEARS: I would cook supper sometimes when she wasn't around. I got to see what happens to the bastard who did this. I thought if I do that, I go to prison, maybe Kate. Interviews with Bagbys friends and family take the place of the usual lineup of witnessesas much attention is given to the fact that he always wore shorts as to the number of times he was shotand their pain functions as evidence as the film builds a case against the Canadian bail and extradition protocols. August 5, 2008: (Photo of David and Kate; airplane; lake and coast), MORRISON: But here's the thing. Coverage from the 2023 Canada Winter Games, VIDEO: Your daily elite-sports highlight package, Making Canada Better: Atlantic Canadians striving for change, 2023 SaltWire Network. Oh my god. Jackson, Kentucky. It also took 3rd place in the National Headliner Awards for Best Documentary of 2008, given by the Press Club of Atlantic City. Man #14: I admire you and respect you so much for two things. I, was like, `Hi, buddy.' Meeting her at 6. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Would you be willing to turn the gun into your local police department so they could get it to us to let us look at it? If. Kuenne is able to capture the true nature of love and dedication in a way I have never seen. There are things to do, he said, and they try to enjoy life as much as possible. Kate went to the floor, and I kicked the door and--oh, we, just--just like with Andrew, there's nothing you can do. I got to put on the record the fact that I would like a much stronger bill, said David. then one day I realized what it was. David bagby, left, and kate bagby, right, celebrate with their son andrew bagby at his graduation from medical school at memorial university of newfoundland in june 2000. contributed by david and kate bagby. Andrew's parents say he tried, frequently, to ease out of the relationship altogether, but Shirley wouldn't buy it. You dont leave it behind. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. Mr. SHEARS: She's kind of reliving a university life again. "One of the best documentaries I have ever seen in my entire life a film that will rock you to your core. At least he might have asleep when she went in. This is Defector, a new sports blog and media company. My TV-consumption habits for the past several months have been awash in murder, and Netflix knows itwhich is how, fresh from binge-watching Making a Murderer and hungry for more, I recently came across Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. This odd documentarywhich deals with the death of a young physician named Andrew Bagby, who was a childhood friend of the films director, Kurt Kuennemade a small splash when it was first released, in 2008, but its worth revisiting now, in the midst of the recent bonanza of true-crime hits. And you just bought the gun, right? MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. He said, `What can happen?'. Complicating things further, she soon announced that she was pregnant with Bagbys child. In that time, it becomes clear that, thankfully, baby Zachary has his fathers penchant for emotional maturity and gravitates not towards his mother, but to his grandmother. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. Not too long ago? Sometimes, if you are paying attentionclose attentionyou can see it coming, even if only barely. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm interested in the gun. And thus the decision from which all else followed. MORRISON: It's no easy thing to be a doctor in America. (Supreme Court building; Shirley being escorted from court; photos of Kate and. 2023 Cond Nast. (David and Kate; photo of Andrew by tape being put into recording device; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you babysitting? When Bagby said he was going to anyway, Simpson asked him to come to his house right after. You were done. One of the first to meet Zachary was, (Photo of Zachary Turner; wedding dance; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photo. prayed that his murderer, whoever it was, would be swiftly brought to justice. Kurt Kuennes 2008 documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, deserves a second look, especially in light of the recent popularity of true-crime programs like Serial and Making a Murderer., Photograph courtesy Oscilloscope Pictures / Everett. What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. She has to veer away from the image and instead see him as a living being. But afterwards, all wounded and broken down, you will see the power of the human spirit even in the face of the darkest of souls." Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. Dear Zachary will have its World Premiere at the Slamdance Film Festival, January 17-25, 2008 in Park City, Utah! It didn't clue in, MORRISON: T.J. says while he was touched that she'd shown up at, the hospital, he was also a little surprised. The documentary was originally released in 2008. MORRISON: You didn't seriously think of--I mean, you talk about this plan Mr. BAGBY: Absolutely. They told us that they'd found the body. What if she is backed in a. corner? This was the situation with Andrews son Zachary. MORRISON: A couple of hours later, there was another knock at the, Mr. BAGBY: Told us what happened. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. It will make you question your faith in the world. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book I was just gone. We don't--we don't gush very much. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) You don't like this answer, but I'm going to, give it to you again. Our SaltWire team is always watching out for the place we call home. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. -, "To give you an idea how powerful it is, I'll just say that there was a lot of audible sobbing during the credits.and the first question in the Q&A started like this: "First of all, holy crap. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. kind of panic sets in, I guess. unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. In the, tribute documentary their son's best friend Kurt Kuenne was making to someday, give Zachary, the Bagbys' friends recount how difficult it was for David and. MORRISON: But then things changed. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, this ranks right up there. All rights reserved, Click here for information on becoming a member. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you sure? The good life started in earnest when Kate first laid eyes on Petty Officer David Bagby, who was serving on the USS Hornet, docked in Long Beach in 1967. Information on who and where to write can be found on the "Support Bail Reform" page. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. MORRISON: Even more, the Bagbys' gloom was mixed with worry. MORRISON: Kurt and Andrew grew up together in Northern California, where the fledgling director gave Andrew starring roles in some of his earliest ventures. MORRISON: Shirley Turner, also a doctor in training, was 12 years older than Andrew, twice divorced, a mother of three. His medical studies in Newfoundland were complete. Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I have that for protection. We're thrilled with MP Andrews' initiative and efforts, and support him 100% as he moves this bill forward. MORRISON: Andrew Bagby. Now that Zachary was starting to walk, he was free to make a beeline to. And the comfort they personify can be found in the fact that even in the face of Shirley Jane Turner, they not only continue, they remain good while continuing. On a shelf in the California home of David and Kate Bagby, sitting inconspicuously among some lovely china, are two urns. because it's hard to get off Newfoundland. (Sea at night; photo of Shirley and Zachary; autopsy report; photo of man; photo of Shirley and Zachary; Zachary sleeping; David and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Kate just quit. See rank. We urge you to write your MP (if you're Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if you're not) in support of MP Andrews' bill; the next few months are a crucial time. Is it OK? Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. Please consider joining us in this mission by becoming a member of the SaltWire Network and helping to make our communities better. The Hornet was just back from patrolling . KATE: (Zachary hugging Kate) This is your Uncle Kurt. But he was moved to honor his friend the best way he knew how, by making a film. This film was no longer a letter to you, Unidentified Man #23: Well, everybody always says, well, what. Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) He is too happy, Kathleen. He was the whole world to them. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. get a chance to have some of Andrew again. It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." We had negotiated a one-hour-a-week visitation in family court. Right? The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. Such choices make for a disorienting viewing experience, especially if youre accustomed to the conventions of slicker documentaries. One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. Except this story is worse. did. It would take two weeks. Lastly, Dear Zachary was screened in Ottawa on March 11, 2009 for various members of Parliament and their staff; as a result, a small but committed group of Parliamentarians are now drafting a bill based on the issues raised in the film. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. to the house and found a card from a police officer that we knew. This film will be one of the best you're likely to see this year." We would've done handstands and cartwheels to. The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. In New York - August 8-14 at the IFC Center, 323 Sixth Avenue at W. 3rd Street. In that time, it also becomes clear that Andrews fate is in danger of also becoming his sons. Mommy misses you. I kind of need to move on from that because, like I. said, I'm a Bagby male. December 15, 2009: The Bagbys attended the hearing, of course, and, could not quite believe their ears when they heard the judge's ruling. kind of the only way that this little boy is going to get to know his dad. Blu-ray: Unidentified Man #24: Two I have ever known. The 10th Anniversary Blu-Ray and DVD are also available from other retailers listed below, and the digital edition is now available for purchase or rent on iTunes, Amazon Prime Video, and Google Play. to reconsider getting some help with that. The Bagbys could scarcely believe. They also went to Ottawa to push the case for Bill C-464, which had been introduced by then Liberal MP Scott Andrews, at a committee hearing. He had been shot five times and the No. KATE: And she went over in the corner crying, and I gave him back. Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. the water. Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. The memory of that visit is of a crying Zachary being taken away from them. Mr. KUENNE: I think he was a little scared of me when I first came up. (Kate and Zachary; judge in court; Shirley being escorted from court), Mr. KUENNE: I don't know. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. flying; Canadian flag flying; Supreme Court of Newfoundland building exterior; photos of Shirley; court document; university building; man talking to, reporters; court documents; Kate and David). To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. In Los Angeles - August 22-28 at the Arclight Hollywood, 6360 Sunset Blvd. Its a muddled structure, and the film makes frequent aesthetic missteps as well, with frenetic editing, canned music, and heavy-handed imagery. . He couldve introduced his friends death any way he wanted, and he went with this, with a kid who can barely pronounce the word killed asking why one of daddys friends has ended up that way. Shirley. January 28, 2008: Hello. sixteen years have passed but for the bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. KATE: You were always afraid that she was going to find something. At one point, one friend says that if he had one tenth of the people who cared about him half as much as they do about Bagby, he would be happy. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. This documentary starts out like a love letter. Still grieving the death of their son, the Bagbys moved to Newfoundland and fought for custody of Zachary. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. Mr. SIMPSON: You don't need to go out with a woman because you can't think you can do better. It would be kind of upsetting, I guess, to let your son spend time. a--with a hand grenade in the kitchen with the pin already pulled. His father says, "I kissed him and held . Imagine it. Then, suddenly, tears. Mr. SIMPSON: Things people should know about Andrew, he was never late. Read the DocuWeek Q&A with writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne HERE. And so, on August 18, 2003, Shirley Jane Turner kills Zachary. You dont get over it. CONTRIBUTED BY DAVID AND KATE BAGBY Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. DVD: Amazon | B&N MORRISON: But was that what you assumed had happened? Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL I dont know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. Unidentified Man #20: The weather here is terrible. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. He said, `Well, it's 4:30 now. His goal at first was simply to collect memories and tributes from people who were close to Bagby. you have anywhere to put that, or that Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Not yet. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. Andrew came to St. John's. Or was this her, way of demanding that they suspend their critical faculties and declare their, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I don't know what to give Zachary. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. dropping Shirley and their grandboy off at her son T.J.'s home (Photo of Zachary sleeping in car seat; streets passing), KATE: She said, `Wake up, Zachary and say goodbye to your grandparents.'. MORRISON: And now that she was freed, Shirley would once again, Mr. BAGBY: We had to take him down the stairs and give him to, Shirley's friend, who happened to have a car seat. The first time we had contact with her was over the phone. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. We. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. He was such a good baby. It wasn't just to monitor the, extradition process. With that powerful, evidence, Shirley Turner was formally charged with Andrew's murder and, arrested by Newfoundland police. They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. KATE: It was shocking, but not a surprise. -, "A 10 out of 10. keep him safe, which they feared was about to become even more difficult. One of those forgettable pieces of solipsistic pseudo-art that is essentially just a scrapbook that was released to the public and then everyone just said it was good because no one wanted to hurt anyones feelings. Kuenne began making Dear Zachary before Turner revealed her pregnancy. Someone found a car that didn't belong. If it looks like she's likely to go back, how is she going to behave? They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with. (Newspaper rack; photo of Shirley and Zachary), Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) I am going to continue to scream long and loud, MORRISON: The Bagbys have continued a campaign for the overhaul, of the bail system. April 14, 2009: MORRISON: What did you think that she would do, kill you? They watched the legal proceedings grind, infuriating and slow. MORRISON: When you did find out that she was pregnant, what was your thought? For the Bagbys, shock might have, (Photo of David and Zachary; photo of Kate and Zachary; Shirley being escorted, from court; court documents; court exterior; court documents; Kate and David), KATE: I'd sat in the back of the room while Judge Green said to her, `I'm so, sorry, Dr. Turner, your life is on hold, and I know the law is slow.' For one thing, Shirley, required the Bagbys to bring Zachary to visit her once a week in jail. Skewed imagery. granddad? Then, upon. It has been our privilege to have the trust and support of our East Coast communities for the last 200 years. MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. Keith Morrison reports. MORRISON: Andrew's body was discovered the following morning with bullets lodged in his face, buttock, chest, the back of his head. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. Newfoundland to meet the now 11-month-old little boy. Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! Serious crime is rare in this country. It was all incorrect from the beginning, that all this, innocence and everything she's told you was a lie. -, "When this haunting, shattering film made its premiere at Park City's Slamdance Film Festival, it received the most sustained ovation of any film I saw this year in Park City. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! Zachary, I love you, baby. MORRISON: But Andrew did agree to meet Shirley in a nearby park. We had to pack up Zachary, Mr. BAGBY: We just climbed right back upstairs and went to bed and melted. Zachary, how's our baby today? kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. MORRISON: In July 2003, a year and eight months after their son's, murder, Andrew's friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, who'd been making the, documentary film for Zachary about the father he'd never know, arrived in. What a flaky person. Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. thoughts, his wife sees something that rocks her to the core. But he was accepted here, St. John's, Newfoundland, the easternmost point in North America. Click HERE for assistance. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. Couldn't be her. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again. David Bagby. This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up. For those who've asked how Kate & David Bagby are doing now, here's a lovely article from Diane Crocker at Newfoundland's The Western Star. would now have to be something else, a visual letter to Andrew's baby. Subscribe here. Cpl. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Or what about the one of me and Andrew? And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. Also, today MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland introduced a bill in Parliament for its first reading that proposes a modification to Canada's bail code that would justify detention in custody for a suspect who is a potential danger to their own minor children.
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